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    Why not pdf

    Hi,
    I understand that all the logos must be in vector graphics, but is pdf
    distillerd from vector graphic accepted in any cases, for example to reduce the file size?

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    Do you mean for this site or for other purposes?

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    I mean when delivering the final design to the "customer".

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    PDF is even better, you can lock up your design and colors, as well as stamps or signatures. Next to that, most producers of graphics use mostly PDF, to check up on colors and stuff. Overall the filesize can change a bit, but it's more due to the different format. (it doesn't change THAT much...)
    And if you want to send your custumor something to see, why not just jpg it, at a max of 1024x768 at 72dpi?! Smaller custumors mostly don't work with PMS, so what's the problem?!

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    I tend to agree, the pdf format is easy transferable and can be many different sizes and opened on just about any machine, just need a quick download.

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    yeah, except that when the client wants to scale up or down the logo or do some other modifications he will not be able to do it in PDF. so let's stick to .eps or .ai

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    I don't think the client should be making any changes to the logo at all, if that's what you meant; that's for the designer to do. PDF is a fantastic format to present proofs or finals to the client with small file sizes (comparatively) while retaining high quality. This works ESPECIALLY well for vector images. If a vector image is exported as PDF, the client can scale up and down all day long with no significant loss of fidelity.

    PDF all the way. I agree though that for just something to look at, jpg is a friend indeed.

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    I agree with Cooking Utensil. When i want to show the final work to a client i export to JPEG. Usually i dont export my vector image to PDF because if the client isnt honest and nows a bit about how this works, he can show the PDF to another designer, and then the designer import again into the Freehand for example, changes it a bit and voilá, a new logo for less money.

    It happened to me before..Now i use a watermark on my JPEG's or paper print the final result just to show to the client.

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    i think you should read this
    What's in a file? Do you know?

    PDF is as ok as is .ai or .eps
    you just need to setup the pdf file to be ok.

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    PDF's are fine. I send PDFs out as proofs constantly because it allows the customer to scale the image, but also gives me security options to protect my work.

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    pdf format is secure but it can be exported in Adobe Illustrator.

    @ Tressley : how to put security option in pdf?

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    In CS4:

    File > Save As... > Select PDF > (You should get an additional window here) > Select the Security Tab > Check the box for "Use a Password to restrict editing... > Uncheck enable copying of text and images.

    That should do it for you!

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    If the client buys the design from you then he/she should be able to do what it is they want with it. If you buy a car and want to change the wheels, you can, no difference. Once the client pays you for the design then you lose the rights depending on what is agreed upon. A client pays $300 for a logo and can't rezie it to fit a business card or ballpark sign

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    I'd only use a PDF as a proof for a clinent. but final design should be sent as a AI EPS along with a jpg and/or pdf of the image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tressley View Post
    In CS4:

    File > Save As... > Select PDF > (You should get an additional window here) > Select the Security Tab > Check the box for "Use a Password to restrict editing... > Uncheck enable copying of text and images.

    That should do it for you!
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    PDF is the way to go, they can be edited from illustrator easily if saved correctly.

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    How about this..make it simple jpg proofs when the client chooses what he/she wants they are sent the AI,eps files along with anyother file they might ask for. They buy the design they should get the files to do what they please with.

    To make it VERY easy for this site Design Contest the Contest holder will get AI and EPS files. EPS can be opened in photshop and or AI and Corel. PDF shouldn't even be an issue on this site
    Last edited by Coy; 12-01-2009 at 06:48 PM.
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