What a difference an artist and a designer

[Afri]

painter with a digital designer, is there anything they do the same?

painter with a digital designers, whether their similarities?

[HWorks]

Well, a designer is an artist in a 'square' way of working. He has to follow more rules than a traditional artist, which can follow his heart whenever he feels.

But I always say: a designer is someone who works on composition, and composition is the very most important base for a well-done painting/statue/whatever. So I believe every designer should be an artist, so, he can follow more creative ideas; and every artist should be a designer, so he can be more clean and ordinate and make a good composition.

Cheers.

[sharie]

I think Sliver gave some good examples for your question.

I consider myself both a designer and an artist. I paint traditional as well as digital painting. Below is a digital painting. I paint digital just as I do on traditional canvas.

Start with an empty document (I use photoshop fro my digital painting)I make and use different brushhes, not those brushes in shapes and designs. My brushes I use are for brushing through the color for fur or any other texture I want. I use the smudge brush and paint brushes. I don't use premade shapes but do use the marquee tool I look at that like masking off as I would on a canvas.

Below is an example of my digital painting style. The tiger was painted in photoshop just as I explained above. I used my own paint and smudge brushes. My original tiger size was 36 inches longest side and 600 resolution, it printed out very nice and the person I sold it to loved it.

I think Designers and artists work alike in many ways though many artisits may be more litteral than most designers. Oh and Artists might be starving more than designers : ) There has always been a "thing" between designers and artisits Just as a thing between photography and digital photography And traditional artists vs. digital artisits

sharie

[Coy]

OUt standing tiger Sharie. You should show us some more of your digital paintings. My highschools mascot was a bengal tiger, so I've always liked them.

[Geko]

Well I think A designer is an artist folowing some rules, as silverfx said.

Painting is sooo diferent than digital painting, textures, mixing colors, I think is harder making a "real" paint than a digital one, live painting involves less room for mistakes, drying times, miking colors.

At the end both create art, and art is subjective.

I would think the same as a musician and some guy that makes music at the computer (that can be called musician too), both are making music, the means they use are different but the issue that matters is the final result

P.D. @Sharie, I wish I could digital paint like that, I spent 4 hours on a self portrait and I got my nose and an eye only :P

[sharie]

Attached is a lion, I put an example of the brushes also a little sample of the hair or fur. To create the fur to show depth you would add color brush add color brush and sometimes add several colors to make it look even better.

I do both traditional and digital, both have difficulty levels. I find digital painting harder to get the textures I want because I create it so much like I would on canvas so when I make my fur brushes for example it takes a lot of trial and error. I don't use filters or other things well ok I do use the dodge and burn tool along with the paint brush and smudge tool. The marquee tool is extremely useful. I also don't use a tablet, never have maybe someday who knows.

Both traditional and digital have pros and cons. As far as designers vs artisits, A whole lot has changed in the past 10 yrs. Designers are not looked apon as thinking square anymore or just "graphic" I think Illustrator has changed that, well other programs as well. Remember that show "Bewitched" hubby was a designer, graphic" I would bet not many work like that anymore some maybe.

[Coy]

sharie you should post some of this and traditional in the finished works area.
Outstanding work.

[sharie]

Didn't mean to hijack the thread, sorry. I guess I can submit some art on the showcase thread. i will get some photos of some canvas paintings one of these days.

I mostly wanted to show a designer can be an artist and an artist can be a designer. Can you imagine how boring life would be if we all created the same way.

[Coy]

Agree. I think it was my fault the thread got hijacked. (I'm a forum terroist LOL)

To answer his questioin. I think a designer and an artist is one of the same. it's just the medium that is different.

[hellorivenbark]

Design = Problem Solving
Art = Self Expression

[ahyadgd]

I accept with information: the same as a musician and some guy that makes music at the computer (that can be called musician too), both are making music, the means they use are different but the issue that matters is the final result.
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[HWorks]

I also believe a designer has to be a bit of an illustrator to make a good job. Think about web page designs, today they are very illustrative. Depends on how much you want your work to be 'wide'

[sharie]

Going back a few yrs a graphic designer was more problem solving I think now though graphic design falls into many forms of art as does an artisit.according to the web graphic design is defined---A graphic designer is a professional within the graphic design and graphic arts industry who assembles together images, typography or motion graphics to create a piece of design. A graphic designer creates the graphics primarily for published, printed or electronic media, such as brochures and advertising. They are also sometimes responsible for typesetting, illustration, user interfaces, and web design, or take a teaching position, although these specialties may be assigned to specialists in various graphic design occupations. A core responsibility of the designer's job is to present information in a way that is both accessible and memorable



This is the web definition of an artisThe definition of an artist is wide-ranging and covers a broad spectrum of activities to do with creating art, practicing the arts and/or demonstrating an art. The common usage in both everyday speech and academic discourse is a practitioner in the visual arts only. The term is often used in the entertainment business, especially in a business context, for musicians and other performers (less often for actors). "Artiste" (the French for artist) is a variant used in English only in this context. Use of the term to describe writers, for example, is certainly valid, but less common, and mostly restricted to contexts like criticism.

Art -Dictionary definitions
Wiktionary defines the noun 'artist' (Singular: artist; Plural: artists) as follows:

A person who creates art.
A person who creates art as an occupation.
A person who is skilled at some activity.
The Oxford English Dictionary defines the older broad meanings of the term "artist,"

A learned person or Master of Arts (now rather obsolete)
One who pursues a practical science, traditionally medicine, astrology, alchemy, chemistry (also obsolete)
A follower of a pursuit in which skill comes by study or practice - the opposite of a theorist
A follower of a manual art, such as a mechanic - partly obsolete
One who makes their craft a fine art
One who cultivates one of the fine arts - traditionally the arts presided over by the muses - now the dominant usage
A definition of Artist from Princeton.edu: creative person (a person whose creative work shows sensitivity and imagination).

Now add the term illustrator...what is an illustrator, an artist or a graphic designer?

[Afri]

In the same way but different track.

What Is Graphic Design?
Graphic design is often associated with images. Billboards and magazine ads show us that designers can speak volumes without using the written word. And yet, graphic design is not just about creating powerful picturesthat's what artists, photographers, and illustrators do. It's about communication. In fact, "visual communication" is the most accurate way to describe the purpose of graphic design.

Clients and employers approach the designer with some information that must be communicated to a wide audience. The designer's mission (should he or she choose to accept it) is to bring order and clarity to this information so that others may understand it. You might think of a designer as a special kind of translator who turns dreary old words into an inviting, accessible visual message.

so we get the context of the design contest.

[jiaix]

some good definitions here

a good designer is someone who sits between an engineer and an artist. he must be creative and express oneself freely, yet the process should be well formed and principally technical if needed. (like you could come up with an artisitc idea of a treehouse made of hot air, but without any technical background you could never 'design' it because you wouldn't know how to build it)

[Coy]

moved to design chat since it has nothing to do with Community Contest.

[Skanda]

Spanish dictionary tells the same...
To me,an artist is ho creates something trying to transmit some feelings (or message) in...
A painter has to begin to work with same principles as a digital designer.Yes,a graphic designer has a lot of rules more than trad. painter,but if u are digital painting for fun is no need of rules...only imagination needed.
In the case u are working to a client u have all rules he wants...,depends on client preferences,digital or traditional ways...
Anyway,u must to remember digital design is a newest discipline,since computer rising decade.Old design was made by trad. artists until computers were accesible to profesionals,not so far,in fact.

Same to me...

[sevehn]

hmmm ... for me ... this is how i see it ...


In every designer ... there lies an artist within (or vice versa) ... for, with every design ... art ... yes art ... is always included (or vice versa)... to me ... Art is the big picture - as well as being an artist -- Design, is but a part of art, as is being a designer/illustrator/sketchArtist ... etc. etc. etc.

hope everyone had a warm Christmas! -- new years' is on its way!

[Mar Co.]

DaDa and surrealist movements erased the border between the designers and artists! it is all about the creation...but, of course capitalism doesn't say so (:

[alonso]

The definition of an artist is wide-ranging and covers a broad spectrum of activities to do with creating art, practicing the arts and/or demonstrating an art. A designer is a person who designs or creates something. “Everyone designs who devises courses of action aimed at changing existing situations into preferred ones.”