Grunge Style Logo - a NO NO!

[Nicholas]

I work at CCL label (sioux falls, south dakota) and I print a crap load of labels with every kind of label you can think of - from Budweiser to Tide lol

I was browsing through the design contest (design team members only section) - and noticed some people were doing a grunge style logo.


A word to the wise - grunge style will have to bee screen printed and that is alot more expensive (about 3x more expensive) to do than the standard print plates.

it has to do with each section - the plates would not last very long - maybe could run 20,000 labels for the company before having to change them out -- not very productive... - the screen printing costs more because the screens are expensive to make (no matter who you have do it) plus the machines that do the screen printing are all relativaly newer more advanced machines - and you cant use them over as many times as you can a standard print plate. - either way - grunge = bad idea - a company may think its a cool logo but once they try to do something such as print media (business cards - shirts ect) they will realize that it is a crappy logo because of the costs of it in the short and in the long run.

in all - my professional advice is to keep the designs as simple as possable and don't over due it! - a Tide label (laundry detergent) consists of 8 different plates (very expensive to produce) -- so yeah, there you have it - my little tid bit for all to read.

Thanks for reading and I hope you find this usefull in the future!

[guetizo]

Nicholas,

Thanks for the input.

To tell you the truth I'm not a fan of the grunge style.

[Nicholas]

I like the grunge style - it's just not very good for any type of logo, small business or large business. maybe on like internet media it's nice in some cases but yeah thats just my .02cents

[Untitled]

O cool, thanks for the information. I didn't know that, but then again I haven't tried to make a grudge logo for anyone before. Thanks again.

[apresico]

I'm not a fan of the grunge style either really, but if a client wants a grunge logo and they are willing to pay more, I don't think its a horrible idea to use it because it still can be done. It also depends on what they will be printing on.

[nullsh]

I'm a fan and in some companys its the right style.
Nice to know that, new knowledge its always appreciated.

Thanks for the information.

[Nicholas]

No problem for the information - yeah in some cases it's good but most cases, it's probably not - it is however the designers obligation (if you're nice and not just out to make a buck) - to tell the company about printing issues for whatever content you create for them.

again just my .02cents! lol - thanks all for your replies - more are welcome! we need more posts like this one I made!

[nevadabadgirl]

I like the grunge style for some things (It seems fitting for some companies), but I never knew that about the printing....I only work in web media, but this is some interesting information!

Thanks!

[pigbait75]

cool I don't like the grunge style myself and now when a client asks I can sound like I know something LOL and get them to change their minds.

thanks for the info nicholas.

[Nicholas]

No problem pigbait75 and nevadabadgirl - you are both very welcome!

[mteg24]

Thanks for this! I don't know much about the print process either, so this is something I'll have to keep in mind. However, there are some companies/bands/people that require more of an alternative look, and I think grunge can look really cool for logos in those situations. But now, I'll just have to make clients aware of that for the future.

But are logos always screenprinted? That could be a dumb question, but I'll ask it anyway.

[apresico]

screen printing can be used for T-shirts, hats, CDs, DVDs, ceramics, glass, polyethylene, polypropylene, paper, metals, wood, and some other things I believe. I think you should always discuss with your client what style they want, and if it is grudge, make sure to tell them it will cost more. Some clients are willing to pay well for a certain look.

[Nicholas]

Screen printing can be done on just about anything - it just costs alot more than a standard print plate.

Very true @ apresico's point on "some clients are willing to pay more for that certain look"

Just be sure to point it out

This is starting to be a pretty good thread! We need more like it - so if anyone has a tip I would certainly read it (even if i allready know - i dont know everything! lol)

So start some new threads up and lets get this forum really going!

Nicholas