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[machineman]

By machinemanart at 2009-01-14

[Chung Dha]

Tip for you is to learn more about typography cause I see you have the skills of using illustrator and most top logo looks good but the typefaces and placements are very bad.

[machineman]

thank's I'm always learning. these are just some idea's ~ I will post some finished logo's soon. ~ Any suggestions on some typography tutorials?

[rinaldidesigns]

THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR WORK...OOPS cap lock, as far has typography, there are many sites on, just google I would look at some logos on inspiration site(logopond, howdesign) for ideas, how type is used to balance the design.

One thing that sticks out in your designs, is the overuse of gradiants, effects....a good discipline, is to think, a design must stand 'naked' so to speak, will it look good in just b/w? Some of the best logos in the world are the most simple(THINK, APPLE, NIKE).....

hope I helped

[jecrt]

Illustrator skills are good, I have to agree with chung dha with regards to typography, though. The kerning is really inconsistent and the type seems disconnected in regards to the images. I feel like the typefaces used are also a little stale/dated.

Typophile.com is a great on-line community that specializes in typography. Some designers that use type really well: David Carson, Experimental Jetset, Stefan Sagmesiter to name a few

[machineman]

I adjusted the kerning a bit, better?

Yes, helpful thank you. ~ I did signs for years and I'm a believer in legibility. but cool modern fonts catch the eye of the beholder. I will use some more updated type. thank's again.

[jecrt]

not necessarily "new" fonts - I think that a lot of designers use trendy fonts as a crutch. And then, five years from now, those trendy fonts become dated fonts.

There are a lot of "timeless" fonts in my opinion. I think it depends on how there set.

I just noticed you're in Somerville - I used to live on Broadway...down the street from the Bickford's/Star Market. My car was broken into twice and then stolen in a period of a two months!!

[machineman]

not necessarily "new" fonts - I think that a lot of designers use trendy fonts as a crutch. And then, five years from now, those trendy fonts become dated fonts.

There are a lot of "timeless" fonts in my opinion. I think it depends on how there set.

I just noticed you're in Somerville - I used to live on Broadway...down the street from the Bickford's/Star Market. My car was broken into twice and then stolen in a period of a two months!!

Ouch! that's near the projects ~ not the best part of town. glad to hear you got out of there! ~ Fonts, colors, bold, italic, solid colors, gradients, lots to choose from! :O ~ I't seems to be in the eye of the beholder. I love Illustrator, Photoshop, Rock & Roll and creating art and design though.

[jecrt]

Ouch! that's near the projects ~ not the best part of town. glad to hear you got out of there! ~ Fonts, colors, bold, italic, solid colors, gradients, lots to choose from! :O ~ I't seems to be in the eye of the beholder. I love Illustrator, Photoshop, Rock & Roll and creating art and design though.

haha - no. The building I was in was great, though. I bought a space in the garage for a couple months but then moved to Bedford...way safer.

[Jochemdv]

This might be a bit late but regarding the advice on the typography thing:
you might want to check out www.ilovetypography.com for some examples of font use, font creating and just getting the feeling with typography in all kinds of media.

There are some good examples on there.

[Chung Dha]

It's not a hard thing to learn mostly just type the name and scroll through all your fonts and pick up which fits the name and your logo the best. And then play around with placement and kerning. After a while you can see clearly most companies like some fonts and use them as standard. There are basically a small list of fonts which I use the most while I have allot of fonts.

The fonts I use the most are not that much this is the small list I mostly use, these are quite save and always work list, allot of other fonts are exclusion which only works on certain companies:
Enter Sansman
Eurasia
Eurostile
Calibri
Century Gothic
Futura
Grotesk
Helvectica
Myriad Pro
Raspoutine
Trajan Pro
VAG

Just need to find the correct taste for typography. Always make several version and place them next to each other so you can see differences and see which works and which not.

[machineman]

It's not a hard thing to learn mostly just type the name and scroll through all your fonts and pick up which fits the name and your logo the best. And then play around with placement and kerning. After a while you can see clearly most companies like some fonts and use them as standard. There are basically a small list of fonts which I use the most while I have allot of fonts.

The fonts I use the most are not that much this is the small list I mostly use, these are quite save and always work list, allot of other fonts are exclusion which only works on certain companies:
Enter Sansman
Eurasia
Eurostile
Calibri
Century Gothic
Futura
Grotesk
Helvectica
Myriad Pro
Raspoutine
Trajan Pro
VAG

Just need to find the correct taste for typography. Always make several version and place them next to each other so you can see differences and see which works and which not.

Thank's Chung Dha, very helpful advice. I will follow your instruction.

[machineman]

This might be a bit late but regarding the advice on the typography thing:
you might want to check out www.ilovetypography.com for some examples of font use, font creating and just getting the feeling with typography in all kinds of media.

There are some good examples on there.

Amazing site! I appreciate it!

[crisp]

Any suggestions on some typography tutorials?

Typography Tutorials - Desktop Publishing Typography Tutorials

[machineman]

Thank's crisp!!!