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Do we need guaranteed contests?


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Poll: Do we need guaranteed contests? (15 member(s) have cast votes)

Do we need guaranteed contests?

  1. yes (15 votes [100.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 100.00%

  2. no (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 02 January 2004 - 02:50 AM

I am asking this question, just to prove that vast majority of our users believes we do. It will be a surprise for me if you, guys, say we don't :)

#2 psyris

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 03:37 AM

eventhough i have yet to start entering the contests i still believe that we need guaranteed contest, to help ensure the reputation of the site and of the members
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#3 oTTo

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Posted 03 January 2004 - 04:00 AM

I understand the need of guaranteed contests. I think we all do.

I'm not sure how long this site has been active, seeing as how I came across it maybe two months ago or so, but i would assume that the guaranteed contests would naturally progress to be dominant in the forums. It's not difficult to see the increased response and quality of work in those threads that appear most honest.

Perhaps this site has been active for some time now with little progress in that respect, so implementing guaranteed contests administratively may be necessary.
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#4 phacker

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Posted 04 January 2004 - 10:16 PM

I have no problem with guarranteed contests. But I do have a problem with restricting participation to prescreened applicants, like DesignOutpost does. Participation is by invitation only.
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Posted 12 January 2004 - 02:36 AM

Originally posted by psyris
eventhough i have yet to start entering the contests i still believe that we need guaranteed contest, to help ensure the reputation of the site and of the members



I agree
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#6 simplistik

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 03:17 AM

Right, well I personally have had no problems with non-gauranteed contest. But they are nice to have because it gives the designer some sense of secruity that IF they win they know they will get paid. But, I also don't think that pressuring the contest holders, like many of you do, to make a gauranteed one is very nice.

Even prescreening designers doesn't work, on designoutpost there is i think only like 2 - 3 dominant designers on there. And alot of the ppl there prolly should've made the cut. That may also happen here as well.

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#7 phacker

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 03:22 AM

I agree with everything you've said Simplistik. I've seen contests go south, because they were pressured.
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#8 shuv

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 04:47 AM

i believe so, as we've seen here already there are plenty of people willing to take advantage of others.
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#9 BBGorB

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 01:18 PM

Looks like the question is no longer "Do we need guarantee contest?"

Let me summarise your opinions:

1. We need Guarantee contests
2. We don't want to pressure contest starters to pre-paid the price
3. We don't want to be ripped off
4. Beginners want their chance to build up their portfolio
5. We don't want a few ppl to dominate the contests

I'm thinking if we run the majority of contests guaranteed, contest starters won't take non-guarantee contest for granted, and we won't need to go around and ask ppl to deposite the price money, hopefully this will solve points 1 2 and 3. We can open a public non-guarantee forum for beginners and those who are building up their portfolio. thus the whole contest section will look something like below:

Logo Design Contests (guaranteed)
Website Design Contests (guaranteed)
Flash Design Contests (guaranteed)
Miscellaneous Design Contests (guaranteed)
Non-profit oranisation/Low-Cash Prizes Contests (guaranteed)
Public Design Contests (non-guaranteed, open to all members)

I can't however think of a solution to 5, allowing more designers to join the team doesn't stop top designers from dominating the contests, can try lowering the pre-screen threshold e.g. allow ppl with 5 designs in their portfolio to join the design team. OR limit participation of contest winners (e.g. contest winners won't be allowed to participate in the same forum for two weeks after their win). What do you think?
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#10 simplistik

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Posted 12 January 2004 - 06:15 PM

I don't think that you should just allow ppl with 5 designs in their portfolio to join. I just think that the portfolios need to be looked at carefully, and maybe more critically. The higher level of designers you get the higher amount of money will be offered. I would esp. look at designs that look like clip art or existing stuff. As for dominate designers... I don't know if you can solve that problem, some ppl just design better than others, and it wouldn't be fair to not let them compete when they haven't done anything wrong.

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 03:13 AM

Even prescreening designers doesn't work, on designoutpost there is i think only like 2 - 3 dominant designers on there. And alot of the ppl there prolly should've made the cut. That may also happen here as well.

simplistik, I got this impression that you were against pre-screening coz you were concerned that it would encourage domination. And now you're suggesting portfolios should be looked at carefully and critically to bring up the standard, isn't that what designoutpost is doing? i.e. pre-screening?

and phacker, I understand you don't want DC.net to turn into designoutpost in the way they restrict participation to prescreened applicants, what can we do to bring in higher level designers? or do you prefer DC.net to stay as it is?

btw, I think both of you are very good designers, I love some of the works you guys have posted and I respect your opinions,
as well as all other members' please share your thoughts.
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#12 simplistik

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 03:20 AM

No no, what I said about the dominant designers was that even after all those designers pre-screened to try to get the best designers, only 2 or 3 of them are winning everything. So even though they are trying to balance the designers out it's not working. That's what I was saying about their pre-screening. But don't get me wrong there is talent there.

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#13 Onvx

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 05:02 AM

I think designoutpost has a limit of how many designers they want on their "team" we will not limit it... all I (and most people want) are are minimum comprehension and skill levels.

I think everyone should have the opportunity to participate... all we ask is they show some seriousness and submit a portfolio. If that's too much work then they should not bother being here.

DC needs people that can read directions and care about their designs. So many people on here can't even comprehend simple instructions by the clients.

#14 BBGorB

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Posted 13 January 2004 - 05:14 AM

Ar... I see what you mean, looks like domination is inevitable, sharpen up your pencils designers!
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