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What is the difference between a Great Logo and a Winning Logo?


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#61 lizonil

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:26 PM

That's another great story. I love the links. How on earth do you make one of those moving gifs... I feel like a dinosaur that knows nothing. Love the behance site, I have never seen that before. Great place to showcase. If I ever get time I might sign up!! : )

#62 PaintedPony

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:35 PM

@Happy~ Yes, Jim Bellino is Alexis' husband. Kind of cool to have a logo designed by a DC designer featured on national TV. :)

Great story about how you stumbled upon DC as well and having a win on your first contest too!

Thanks for sharing the Bruno link - very cool stuff there! I now want to create some animated gifs of some of my logos I've designed! I checked out DC's reviews there too - I'm kind of shocked that several posted reviews were not good?! But I know DC has many, many happy, satisfied contest holders - wish some of those were posted there!

#63 GJR

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 10:09 AM

That's another great story. I love the links. How on earth do you make one of those moving gifs... I feel like a dinosaur that knows nothing. Love the behance site, I have never seen that before. Great place to showcase. If I ever get time I might sign up!! : )


there are a few ways to make them - but the probably the simplest way is to use animation in photoshop. Google "animated gif photoshop" and there are lots of tutorials.

#64 HerbertNordal

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:27 PM

Hey PaintedPony
The weather forecasts suggest that the Carolinas will see 3-6 inches of snow. When I was there along time ago, one inch of snow shut the State down because no one new how to drive in the snow and no snow plows existed in the State. No road salt either. Looks like you may get the opportunity to catch Cabin Fever. :)

#65 HappyGD

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 04:55 AM

That's another great story. I love the links. How on earth do you make one of those moving gifs... I feel like a dinosaur that knows nothing. Love the behance site, I have never seen that before. Great place to showcase. If I ever get time I might sign up!! : )

DC was extremely slow for me the other day so I wasn't able to respond. But definitely sign up! It's one of the better free platforms to show off work and seek inspiration. As for those moving gifs, like GJR mentioned there are a lot of tutorials out there that show how they're made using Photoshop (and After Effects if you have it). It's actually pretty easy to do and it's a nice way to reveal your design process. The only real downfalls are the quality and size of the file. I can try finding an easy tutorial if you're interested in making these in the future


Hey PaintedPony
The weather forecasts suggest that the Carolinas will see 3-6 inches of snow. When I was there along time ago, one inch of snow shut the State down because no one new how to drive in the snow and no snow plows existed in the State. No road salt either. Looks like you may get the opportunity to catch Cabin Fever. :)

At least NC/SC isn't like Texas. They've had entire counties shut down over a "dusting" of snow :cool:


Fortunately, Times Spent on Each Entry is not an available stat. If it was, we would know total time the design community spent on each project. And, let's add in the time spent on abandon contests.

A great design may take 15 minutes or 15 hours, but will it win?

It is clear that each designer has their own procedures, practices and preferences. Each works according to their own experience.

A study of the available numbers just shows (at most) what works best for each.

What do you think the available numbers reveal?

I suspect that they just show what we already know.

Back to the topic. That would be an interesting statistic, time spent on an entry. However I think if those stats were hypothetically available, we would probably see no conclusive correlation between time and winning. Just an example from my experience here on this site, I won a contest on an entry that I threw together in 30 minutes, while in another one I won on an entry that took me 3 days to complete. This variation in time is something many designers here have probably gone through as well

#66 PaintedPony

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 06:32 AM

Hey PaintedPony
The weather forecasts suggest that the Carolinas will see 3-6 inches of snow. When I was there along time ago, one inch of snow shut the State down because no one new how to drive in the snow and no snow plows existed in the State. No road salt either. Looks like you may get the opportunity to catch Cabin Fever. :)


Hey Herbert~ Yep - 2 snowflakes here and everything shuts down! Luckily we don't usually get too much snow. It's crazy when they predict snow here - everyone runs to the store to buy bread and milk - all the grocery stores will be crowded - the shelves will be cleaned out of bread! Usually if the snow comes out of Atlanta, GA, we will get it in NC and SC. Funny thing is today it was 64º and sunny! Temp is dropping though - right now it is 38º. I will probably wake up to a snow covered winter wonderland! :)

#67 aandrei_24

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Posted 28 January 2014 - 10:10 PM

Hey guys, you are soooo lucky to get snow... I live at the base of freaking mountains, and except today when it was below 0 (Celsius that is), the last snow i've seen in the city was from last year! Up in the mountain there is snow, but my kid wants to play in the snow, in the park! Ah, and when it snows, it is just like in SC. They (authorities) expect it to snow (duh, it is winter) but when it does they are always unable to clean it in a timely manner. That's why i drive a 4x4 in the winter. :cool: Well, not this winter, anyway.

#68 lizonil

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 07:37 AM

Do you have snow yet PP? My pals in Atlanta have been posting pics on FB of all their snow... before it settled, and there was just a light dusting my buddy (another expat, like you he moved there when he was a little kid) said he saw 5 accidents on his way home from work!! lol... no snow here, my little girl is desperate for it... we had a lot last year. I love snow! : )

#69 PaintedPony

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:01 PM

Do you have snow yet PP? My pals in Atlanta have been posting pics on FB of all their snow... before it settled, and there was just a light dusting my buddy (another expat, like you he moved there when he was a little kid) said he saw 5 accidents on his way home from work!! lol... no snow here, my little girl is desperate for it... we had a lot last year. I love snow! : )


Hi Liz~ Yes, we got some snow here - about 2 inches - it started about 4:00 yesterday. They let schools out at 11:30 yesterday to get all the kids home before the snow even started! Which caused traffic jams everywhere (they started closing bridges and overpasses early since they are the first to freeze), so everyone was leaving work early (picking up kids) and trying to get home. It took hours for a lot of people to get home. Good thing they did that though, because they didn't in Georgia. They are in a state of emergency there. Kids were stranded at school and had to spend the night at school as well as people in their offices who couldn't get home - had to spend the night in their offices. There were close to 1000 wrecks there. One school bus (with 3 kids) hit ice and an SUV - minor injuries to the kids - luckily.

Southerners like to see snow but it sure does make a big mess here. They put down brine and salt on the streets, and Charlotte doesn't have many snow plows, so there is no way they can clean up all the streets. It's not really the snow that is the problem, but the ice. The sun will warm up the snow and melt it, but then it just freezes on the streets creating black ice that is like a skating rink. This area will be shut down for a couple days. SC declared a state of emergency as well. I'm glad I now work at home!

#70 lizonil

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:05 PM

Yes, Atlanta has been brought to it's knees... quite a bit of snow, but I expect New Yorkers would scoff at them.
Changing the subject completely, check out this contest, it is right up your street... Wysteria Farm | Logo Design | DesignContest.com

#71 PaintedPony

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 05:39 PM

They have been showing on the news how people were stranded all over Atlanta. Local restaurants and home stores have become make-shift shelters for people stranded - people having to spend the night in those places! Crazy! I've never know it to be that bad!

Thanks for the link to that contest. :) I've been doing some local client work and haven't had a chance to check out some of the new contests. Think I might have to enter. :)

#72 HerbertNordal

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:47 AM

Hi PP,
I am originally from Minnesota. It is sorta like Norway only flat. The local towns spends more than 50% of their budget on snow plowing and snow removal. Snow removal means that the snow is too deep to just push around and must be hauled away. There is a great deal of Scandinavian heritage in the area. People get together in bars and don't speak to each other. Stoic endurance and a long suffering "nice" are cardinal virtues.

When I was a teen, I went on a vacation to south Florida in midwinter. I felt as if I were a Siberian peasant thrown on to the French Riviera. The people down there lived in air conditioning: car, home, & office. They did not own a wool sweeter. The weather worries were excessive sun burn and seasonal hurricanes. The law allowed motorcyclists to ride without helmets. The cultural shock was extreme. The bars were rowdy. The insects were big. The fish were colorful, I was not. Winter just sent them a lot of Yankees to spend money and crowd their roads.

None the less, it was exhilarating. :cool:

#73 PaintedPony

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:15 AM

I've never been to Minnesota, but I've been to Florida more times than I can count! I lived in Ohio for a year when I was younger. I remember walking to school with snowbanks as tall as I was (and yes, I had to walk to school in the snow both ways uphill! LOL! :)

I love Florida and have been up and down both sides of the coast and Key West. I especially like Tampa, St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Sarasota and St. Augustine. I remember the bugs - they have Palmetto bugs (flying cockroaches as big as mice!) Luckily I never saw one in a bar! LOL! :)

#74 HerbertNordal

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 10:16 PM

Congrats to Lizonil,
She jumped up to the number two spot on this site, and she is about to win the substantial prize in the BU. Malibu contest. :D

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:22 PM

Congrats to Lizonil,
She jumped up to the number two spot on this site, and she is about to win the substantial prize in the BU. Malibu contest. :D


Good for her! Congrats! Prepare the drinks, you are on your way to no.1

#76 HerbertNordal

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:30 PM

What does it mean when a contest reaches a very high number of design entrants?
I have watched people (CH) making design discussions for years. Some work like sculptures, building with clay on a frame. They know what they want and assemble it. Others work like sculptures carving stone. They start with a mountain and whittle it down to get what they finally think they want.

We can sort the contests here at this site by number of entrants. It seems to me that when a contest reaches around four hundred designs, and the CH is still indecisive, that we are whittling a log down to a toothpick. The results are not usually good.

What do you think? :)

#77 lizonil

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:49 PM

Thanks for congrats Herbert... I hadn't realised. I have been so busy with one on ones, honestly I don't know whether I am coming or going! Not sure about BU though, that is one that could turn I think.
I know what you mean about the 400 designs, sometimes the CH just does not know what he wants... and gets more and more confused.
I am just about to go to bed... I have a weekend off, travelling up to Cumbria to look at houses... the weather is miserable, but it will be a break. Have a super weekend y'all (that one was for PP) haha. Love your wysteria submissions, so well balanced, just beautiful. I knew that contest would get your juices flowing.
best regards, Number 2 (hmmm don't like the sound of that) : ) teehee

#78 PaintedPony

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:10 AM

Congrats Liz on being #2! (That does sound kind of funny doesn't it?) :)

Thanks for the kudos on the Wysteria contest (and pointing me towards that contest). :) The CH has been leaving some comments, but no one is being rated (yet?). I love your entries for Wysteria. They look so much like a watercolor painting - just perfect!

Y'all have fun house hunting this weekend! :)

#79 HerbertNordal

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:27 PM

A couple of contests have brought me to share a procedure with you regarding food photography.

The Chicago area is a home for many national food processing and packaging companies. There is a business here for food specialists. The food photographer usually has a large studio with two kitchens, one for cooking and one as a set. The food is prepared and worked over by a food stylist. Tremendous effort is put into making the food look appetizing. The stylist has food "makeup" for this purpose; sprays and powder to decrease shine where it is not wanted and, sprays and powders to increase shine where it is wanted. Lots of little tricks to avoid the effects of hot lighting.

Image a day long photo shoot of ice cream, chocolate, or fresh fruit and cheese. The stylists will varnish meat and apples. The beautiful photography is achieved with great effort and great timing. The food is, of course, rendered uneatable in the process. The food is primped, powdered and pampered like models at Milan Fashion Week.

The goal of all this is to present a perfect appetizing specimen to the consumer. When it comes to food, the human eye is very discerning. No one wants green meat or wilted brown vegetables. The next time you are at a supermarket, pause for a minute and really look AT the packaging product photography.

In the process of learning this, I was informed of a cultural bias in color separations. The appeal of color is very subjective. In general, Americans like photography with a slight magenta bias, Europeans like a slight cyan bias, and Asians prefer a slight yellow bias.

Truth in Advertising laws prevent too much photoshop editing, but there is still a lot of post production adjustment.

In this sort of photography, the product is the star.

just sharing...

Do you have an unusual design experience?

#80 serexzo

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 02:32 AM

The winning logo is decided by the CH while a Great Logo is not ALWAYS decided by the CH... ;)




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