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#1 kristijp

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 06:48 PM

Having some trouble when downscaling an object to a very small size.. The line widths go crazy! It's set to outlines... Any suggestions?

#2 sharie

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:01 PM

You need to adjust your stroke size

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#3 GJR

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:16 PM

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by go crazy?

Are the line-width staying the same size (i.e. they end up way too thick) or are they getting to thin??

#4 sharie

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:19 PM

I think she means when the stroke is defined by size and you reduce the image it goes all crazy, the stroke is still intact and has not been expanded or converted so the stroke size will need to be adjusted to match the size of image

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#5 GJR

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:21 PM

If that's the case then either convert the strokes to outlines first or you can change your settings so that strokes scale proportionally like this:
Illustrator Trick #8: Scaling Strokes & Effects | Vector Diary


I always use this setting - I'm not sure why anyone would want to maintain stroke weight when scaling - that would make me go crazy :D

Edited by GJR, 13 March 2014 - 07:27 PM.


#6 sharie

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 07:26 PM

"I always use this setting - I'm not sure why anyone would want to maintain stroke weight when scaling " have no idea either

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#7 kristijp

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:19 PM

I've done that withe strokes. Even just converted strokes to outline paths. It only happens when shrinking the object down quite small... It's as if some of the point on the outline just shift one way or another.. Some line weights become thicker, others become smaller.. Not sure how else to explain it.

#8 HappyGD

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:27 PM

Are you able to post a screen cap of the before & after when scaling?

#9 kristijp

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:41 PM

Attached File  Picture 1.png   20.52KB   58 downloads


This is an example of what's happening... It only happens when I try to make something extremely small-and not always. Which is rare, and mostly when there are a lot of vertical/horizontal lines..

#10 GJR

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 08:49 PM

I think it's an anti-aliasing issue. go to edit >preferences> general and there's a checkbox for "anti-aliased artwork" is that on or off?

if it's off turn it on!

bit confused though because the large view doesn't look jagged and all artwork would look a little strange.

Sorry Kristijp - I haven't seen this behaviour before so I'm clutching at straws.

what version of CS are you using? does it look weird in illustrator or just when you export?

Edited by GJR, 13 March 2014 - 08:55 PM.


#11 kristijp

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:01 PM

Anti-aliased is on. I'm using CS 5.5. It looks like this in Illustrator, which I've worked in for years and never had such an issue. I can't imagine that I've just never scaled something down quite this small before, but maybe that's the case. Or I've accidentally changed some setting while working late hours. I'll have to do some more looking into it. I'll post back here if I figure it out. Thanks for your help.

#12 HappyGD

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:02 PM

When you said it's set to outlines, do you mean you converted the text to outlines? If so, what happens if you leave the text live and then scale it?

Edit: refer to GJR's answer below

Edited by HappyGD, 13 March 2014 - 09:12 PM.


#13 GJR

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:05 PM

ohh - i think it might be snapping to pixel grid = Adobe Community: How to turn off Snap to Pixel Grid?

#14 GJR

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:10 PM

that option really doesn't work very well on small stuff :)

Edited by GJR, 13 March 2014 - 09:25 PM.


#15 kristijp

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:27 PM

ohh - i think it might be snapping to pixel grid = Adobe Community: How to turn off Snap to Pixel Grid?


This worked perfectly! Thank you so much. That was incredibly frustrating. Still not sure if I've always had that checked or recently checked it accidentally... but I'm sure happy to have it fixed.

#16 GJR

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 09:29 PM

You are welcome - Glad I could help :)

#17 AndreiP

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 02:20 AM

That was too easy. Thanks! Too bad it doesn't solve the jagged edges when two shapes overlap too.

#18 Lutta

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:55 PM

Just expand the strokes so that they become fills.

#19 Seanmccall14

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 03:48 AM

Makes sense, nice explanation

#20 TCMdesign

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Posted 04 August 2014 - 11:04 AM

If that's the case then either convert the strokes to outlines first or you can change your settings so that strokes scale proportionally like this:
Illustrator Trick #8: Scaling Strokes & Effects | Vector Diary


I always use this setting - I'm not sure why anyone would want to maintain stroke weight when scaling - that would make me go crazy :D



Thanks for sharing useful information.




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